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  • Mark Gilmore

    Hi Kate

    If you remove Trainer's "Assessment Submissions" permissions (all of them), they will still be able to mark assessments for the students they are assigned to, but will not be able to see any others.

    Hopefully this makes sense - let me know how you go :)

    Mark

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  • Kate Taylor

    Hi Mark,

    Oh that's amazing! Thank you. So they will only be able to see their class listed in the Instances area:

    Is that right? 

    Thanks,

    Kate

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  • Kate Taylor

    Oh, and would they still be able to get to this screen to change the number of attempts, etc.?

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  • Mark Gilmore

    Hi Kate

    It does look like that page isn't accessible without the permissions, sorry :(

    We have a full redesign of that page coming soon (hopefully in February), and I'll review whether we can adjust the permission settings so that Assessors can still modify that information where they are assigned.

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  • Kate Taylor

    Thanks, Mark. Could you please confirm that Trainers who have the Assessment Submissions turned off, would still see this view, with just the Classes they have been assigned as Assessor:

    Any chance Administrators will have the ability to View as Trainer (for example) at some point so I can stop hassling you and Support? It's really difficult to know if I turn off one permission, what affect it will have elsewhere.

    Thanks!

    Kate

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  • Mark Gilmore

    Hi Kate

     

    Yes, they would still see that view.

     

    Launching as a trainer is a very grey area for us currently for a few reasons:

    1. Security concerns (these will never really go away)
    2. Lack of logging (we have long-term plans for this but it's a big project)

    To test things as a trainer, there a few options that you have:

    1. Create a separate contact + user account that is configured as a trainer. I usually give my spare users a variation of my email address (eg mark.gilmore+test@axcelerate.com or mark.gilmore+trainer@axcelerate.com - you can put anything after the +).
      You'll still be able to use the same login method - you can see I have a user account for each of the roles that I use:
    2. If you don't want to setup additional user accounts, you can (in a separate browser tab) set your user record to that of a trainer. It's just important to remember to override your own permission for user management, so that you can revert the change:

    Hopefully this helps.

    Mark

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  • Belinda Kemp

    I didn't realise removing all permissions for "Assessment Submissions" against a trainer would only allow them to see what is assigned to them. This is a handy tip! Thanks Mark :) 

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  • Mark Gilmore

    Hi Kate & Belinda

    As a development to the original post, we've just finished the initial round of development work to update the Assessment Enrolment page. You can see our design mockup below. These changes will be in staging approximately next Tuesday or Wednesday.

    As part of these changes, I'm working to make the user permissions more intuitive, though note that they may not come in the same release as the primary UI improvement.

    The further improvements that I have planned are:

    • Rename the "Assessment Submissions" permission to "Everyone's Assessment submissions"
    • Ability to update Assessment access dates & attempts without Everyone's Assessment Submissions permission (that's a tongue twister!)

    Let me know if you have any feedback on the new User Interface :)

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  • Kate Taylor

    Hi Mark,

    That looks great! I do have one suggestion, though, that would make it even better!

    At the moment, my Trainers cannot see at the Class-level whether the students are on Attempt 1, 2, 3 etc. On the Class Matrix it just says In Progress.

    It would be amazing if in the Marking Overview, where it lists whether the students' assessments Need Marking, Awaiting Submission, beside their name, it said (Attempt 1) or (Attempt 2).

    This would just really help teachers out. Thank you!

    Kate

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